okay, Didy is a sheep... and we all know how sheep sound!
Another sheep that cannot read the bible. Enjoy! (My responses
will be in bold text.)
didymuspope: Jesus is the only bing that was ever human
that ascended up to heaven.. Elijah and Enoch did not go where
Jesus is now.. therefore_god_exists: didy?? are you sure about that? didymuspope: Yes I am sure,,, read John 3:13
ekw516: yes didy,youre making an error there
didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 shows that Enoch indeed did die... therefore_god_exists: didy, what about ot scriptures
that state enoch and Elijah went to heaven without dying? didymuspope: Enoch only lived for 365 years... see
Genesis 5:22
didymuspope: No Enoch and Elijah never went to heaven, they
went up into the air, but not to where Jesus and the Father
are..
kith_spirit: didymus, that sounds like they're floating in
outerspace therefore_god_exists: Heb 11:13 These all died in
faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them
afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them],
and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the
earth. therefore_god_exists: where does that say
enoch died? didymuspope: Yes THESE ALL included Enoch.. therefore_god_exists: didy, where does it say enoch
died? didymuspope: ENoch is mentioned back in verse 5 of
Hebrews 11....then set John 3:13 agianst Hebrews 11:13 and
se how that makes sense.. therefore_god_exists: Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended
up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the
Son of man which is in heaven.
didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 says Enoch died.,.. therefore_god_exists: no, show me the word enoch in
hebrews 11 13 please didymuspope: Yes translated ..translated does not
mean transformed or transfigured,,, translated means moved
one from one place to another.. therefore_god_exists: Genesis 5:21-23 And Enoch lived
sixty and five years, and begat Methus= elah: 22 And Enoch
walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred year=
s, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch
were three hun= dred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked
with God: and he was not; for God took him. didymuspope: God took Enoch where? John 3:13 says
not to heaven... therefore_god_exists: 2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass,
as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, [there appeared]
a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both
asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
therefore_god_exists: didy the bible says you are wrong didymuspope: Enoch and Elijah did not ascend to heaven
where Jesus ism, neither did anyone else who was ever humnan
escept Jesus Christ.. John 3:13 proves it.. therefore_god_exists: didy, so you call the OT a lie,
I see. therefore_god_exists: 2Ki 2:11 And it came
to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold,
[there appeared] a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and
parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind
into heaven. didymuspope: No i do not, but eh heaven 2nd Kings
2 tlaks about is the air we breath, not wehere Jesus and the
Father are now.. therefore_god_exists: the problem you have here is
that you have pointed out a contradiction in the bible
therefore_god_exists: didy show that they are different heavens.....
verses please.
didymuspope: Do you deny or fail to read John 3:13?
didymuspope: There are 3 heavens mentioned in the bible.. therefore_god_exists: didy i have read it. it contradicts
the OT.
therefore_god_exists: plain and simple
didymuspope: 1) The air we breath, 2) the universes, and 3),
Where Gods Throne is..
didymuspope: Do you think Jesus was mistaken in John 3:13
or what? therefore_god_exists: didy, the bible says enoch and
elijah was taken by god into heaven, you cannot get around
this. sorry, it seems as if jesus lied in the john. didymuspope: Hebrews 11:13 says Enoch died, many
churches so no, Enoch went to heaven.. I believe the bible,
not many churches... therefore_god_exists: didy, you show me enochs name
in the book of hebrews chapter 11 verse 13. therefore_god_exists: until you can show
that, you are wrong. enoch was taken by god up into heaven,
so was elijah... your jesus lied in the book of john. didymuspope: Oh so Jesus lied,,, very interstinhg,
and I assume you are Muslim? therefore_god_exists: didy, nope just someone who
knows what you bible says.therefore_god_exists:
didy, that is because the bible is so messed up and ambiguous
they have no idea what is what. didymuspope: Most churches also ignore the 4th commandment,
they agree with Islam, Islam says the 4th commandment was
done away with,, just when in the bible, did this ever happen?? therefore_god_exists: show me enoch in hebrews 11:13
didy didymuspope: No the bible is not messed up, many
peole who teach and preach the bible is messed up..ISlam is
messed up even worse.. therefore_god_exists: you cannot, because he is not
there... he was taken by god into heaven
therefore_god_exists: didy, i am not a muslim, i could care
less what you think about islam didymuspope: Enoch did not go to heaven where Jesus
is...neither did Elijah.. therefore_god_exists: yes the bible is messed up.
therefore_god_exists: didy, you cannot show that witht the
bible.
therefore_god_exists: you can only make the assertion.
didymuspope: Neoither did any other human but Jesus CHRIST<
and JEsus was changed before He ascended up to heaven the
2nd time..
therefore_god_exists: didy, the bible says you are wrong
didymuspope: I jsut did show it,, read John 3:13... therefore_god_exists: you cannot argue with your own
bible didy.
therefore_god_exists: didy you did not show anything,. i showed
you the verses that show TWO people went into heaven without
dying.
didymuspope: DYing and going to heaven or a firey hell, is
a manmade doctrine, it is not a biblical doctrine at all... therefore_god_exists: read your damn bible didy.
